Heroes! (and what could have been)

verizonwirelessverizonwireless Member, Master Founder, Early Access
edited September 2016 in General Discussion
As i've expressed, i love the lore and characters. Even if it is always changing and still being developed.
But the whole premise that we're familiar with looks to probably have to be retooled (unless they have a way of adapting it to 3 player co-op, i dunno), the whole order vs. unchained thing. That wonderful signed poster i won, where they're charging at each other doesn't even make sense anymore! :P Not to mention why we'll even need 20+ heroes for survival.
I know they're gonna be revamping everyone for survival now, but let's face it, even when they introduced hero roles, some characters could only just do what they were born to do. You can see how the main characteristics of certain offensive characters is kind redundant in survival, like ivy's healing, bloodspike and bionka's escorting of orcs, midnight's stealth etc etc.
Not sure what the story is with winston and temper, but kobold king is utterly screwed.
But yeah,
Remember the board game? It's probably still based on siege mode (can't imagine they'll... go back.. and.. yeah..), which is kinda cool, but it's still a tabletop game. Early on in the kickstarter, they showed all the character cards, and had THE MYSTERY characters. Ones that weren't released yet, but we got sweet sillhouttes of. Well, none of them ever ended up getting released in that time.
And at one point, the company said that they never would. and subbed with... some skins, turned hero. Which was kinda silly. Brought about plenty of outrage on the kickstarter (you should check out some of it, it's actually kinda hilarious).
Six actually had to address it on one of the insider accesses and said the reason was there was so much changes and revamps going on that they might not be the same, or be released at all, so in interest of keeping it parallel with the game, they never released them.
NOW, that the game will never be parallel with the board game, in hindsight (yes, more hindsight), they coulda just let them be released. Wouldn't have affected the balance of THAT game. Would have given them somewhere to live, at least.
But yeah, the thing i'm wondering, can we find out who they were? Who's that pokemon?
It doesn't have to be all spoilery/legal binding/"who did negan kill, find out next year, oooooh!". We're just fiends for concept art, ideas and whatnot. And chris moffitt's wonderful art.
so, since it wasn't gonna happen anyway, can we ooh and ah over it? what could have been?
Though, the insider access before the doom of siege (19/09/2016 to go down in infamy), we were told 2 new heroes were coming in the next patch. and they were... NOT winstontemperkoboldking. Somehow doubt it now, with the giant overhaul on not only the game, but all the current heroes, but hey.

Going by the card info, the top 2 were order and bottom row were unchained. My guesses were disciple (war mages rival in the order) and brass (dobbin's wife), and then on the bottom, that witchdoctor guy from the concept art, an archer (possibly deadeye, the sniper? oh man, i was craving that character coming about. money's on him not coming about as a survival character anyway), lizard guy that people mentioned? and then.. some hulking dude. who is probably not the anchor turtle.

Dev/mod presence during these trying times has been kinda absent, but the deleting/closing has been strong, so please don't delete this. It's not empty speculation or spoilers.
ALL of this info, is from concept art, early lore, boardgame character cards and insider access. None of it is meant so be spoilery, it's just a hero discussion.
Even at that, details of the game need to be discussed. Keeps us interested. Silence between patches doesn't build hype. It makes people's interest dwindle (in siege.. OH GOD *sobs*)

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  • Cpt. SqwekyCpt. Sqweky Member, Master Founder, Early Access
    I think the only way they would delete it is if someone like me who managed to accidentally see the silhouetted heroes when they were in the game files were to start blabbing about them.
    However, one of them is easy enough to figure out, Dobbin's wife has been seen plenty of times, I'm not sure why they are so tight-lipped about her. Even if they never put her in the game they should still just officially admit what she looks like for lore's sake, if nothing else.
    Another should be relatively simple to figure out: There are some clues in one of the ancient documents that Robot gave to the Master Founders back during alpha and some more in a couple of the in-game character bios. It shouldn't be too hard to put the clues together.
    And a third is easy enough to figure out if you've seen an old PAX Prime Robot panel where they showed some character design concept art.
    As for the other three... there are two of them that I can't imagine anyone figuring out on their own, and the third... well it seems obvious to me in hindsight but again, only because I've read the aforementioned document from alpha.

    I'm being intentionally vague, so I hope it doesn't get deleted, but I suppose I'll understand if it does.
  • Warcracfter4Warcracfter4 Member, Early Access
    Btw the top left is already known: One is the Chinese release promotion female samurai hero(name/kit/role is unknown).

    While the other one I assume is the person mentioned in HIM's drinking joke and is actually has been seen in multiple artwork if you pay attention.

    As for the bottom ones:
    The first one seems like a necromancer? But they might be a cyclops related hero given how much his staff resembles Stinkeye's
    The second one is obvious another elf ranger.
    The thrid one might be a hobgoblin related character given the fact they mainly wear masks. Or they could be a troll related character given their dimensions seem to match the troll enemy model.
    The fourth one looks like another ogre character with the thicker body and the drills without horns.
  • Orfum and Tiklik?
  • verizonwirelessverizonwireless Member, Master Founder, Early Access
    I think the only way they would delete it is if someone like me who managed to accidentally see the silhouetted heroes when they were in the game files were to start blabbing about them.
    However, one of them is easy enough to figure out, Dobbin's wife has been seen plenty of times, I'm not sure why they are so tight-lipped about her. Even if they never put her in the game they should still just officially admit what she looks like for lore's sake, if nothing else.
    Another should be relatively simple to figure out: There are some clues in one of the ancient documents that Robot gave to the Master Founders back during alpha and some more in a couple of the in-game character bios. It shouldn't be too hard to put the clues together.
    And a third is easy enough to figure out if you've seen an old PAX Prime Robot panel where they showed some character design concept art.
    As for the other three... there are two of them that I can't imagine anyone figuring out on their own, and the third... well it seems obvious to me in hindsight but again, only because I've read the aforementioned document from alpha.

    I'm being intentionally vague, so I hope it doesn't get deleted, but I suppose I'll understand if it does.
    all this was public domain as it comes. but damn jealous you've seen em. won't pry, out of respect. but if they're all as dead as siege, it would be cool if robot would do another concept art blog post or something. didn't you or someone ask for a lore related insider access recently?
    but yeah, a couple of them are spot on with the concept art. it's actually funny seeing old ancestor and zoey there too.
    and that anchor turtle is awesome.
  • As a long time fan, I am also curious to know as well.  Maybe some of them are weavers?  Remember them?
  • rayleiraylei Member
    edited December 2016
    top left one looks very classi...Chinese warrior with armor
    Bottom left is a warlokc or wizard/witch?
    Top right is gnomish engineer? 
    We know the one with the crossbow is an orc. She is avaiblbe in Chinese server already.
    The second one from the right should be a Hobgoblin?
    The bot right looks like a Dwarf


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  • JuicyJuicy Member, Master Founder, Early Access
    I think some of them are pictured in banquet hall's photos, aren't they? Isn't there a picture of dobbin with his wife there?
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  • I have seen info on a chinese hero and the 2nd on the bottom. Before I talk about this I will say I asked on the EU forum a few weeks back if we are allowed to discuss this. But to no response so here are two heroes.

    The Chinese publisher has information on their website about them. Here is the link http://omd.qq.com/d/index.shtml?type=hero&flag=0

    She doesn't match the first silhouette.

    It describes her abilities and upgrades.

    Here is the silhouette 2nd on the bottom.

    With all the abilities and upgrades. And also skins on the top right. They are getting this hero tomorrow.
    Here is a hero spotlight in Chinese. http://omd.qq.com/v/play.shtml?iCategory=1&iVideoId=49


    Here is two more Chinese heroes, they don't match either :(

    Thanks to Google Chrome for auto translations. Good luck trying to figure out the rest of the silhouettes.
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  • TimeMasterTimeMaster Member, Early Access
    Top Left is the one that was announced for exclusivity on the asian server
    Top Right is a dwarf , Dobbin's wife aka Brass
    Bottom Left... that weapon we saw it before somewhere
    Bottom 2nd is the orquette..
    Bottom 3rd looks like tiklik masks? lol
    Bottom 4th is a cyclop
  • verizonwirelessverizonwireless Member, Master Founder, Early Access
    yeah, that's definitely deadeye, if the.. eyepatch with the skull on it is anything to go by. didn't guess she was a girl though. and definitely more a gunslinger than sniper. but looks fun as hell to play.
  • I have seen info on a chinese hero and the 2nd on the bottom. Before I talk about this I will say I asked on the EU forum a few weeks back if we are allowed to discuss this. But to no response so here are two heroes.

    The Chinese publisher has information on their website about them. Here is the link http://omd.qq.com/d/index.shtml?type=hero&flag=0

    She doesn't match the first silhouette.

    It describes her abilities and upgrades.

    Here is the silhouette 2nd on the bottom.

    With all the abilities and upgrades. And also skins on the top right. They are getting this hero tomorrow.
    Here is a hero spotlight in Chinese. http://omd.qq.com/v/play.shtml?iCategory=1&iVideoId=49


    Here is two more Chinese heroes, they don't match either :(

    Thanks to Google Chrome for auto translations. Good luck trying to figure out the rest of the silhouettes.
    Left one is random legendary named a well knonw historical character.

    Middle one 
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang'e 
    and her moon rabbit

    Right one is Mulan
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  • verizonwirelessverizonwireless Member, Master Founder, Early Access
    since those ones are based on chinese lore and not.. being directly created by robot, i'm gonna guess we're not gonna see them
  • The orc(?) lady with the crossbows looks really cool wow.
    (Also that sight has some cool alternative art for Midnight)
  • I went back and looked at the Kick Starter, here is the bottom line of the Heroes from a different angle.

    I'm thinking top left looks a lot like Tiklik. This is an old model.

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  • verizonwirelessverizonwireless Member, Master Founder, Early Access
    Well that angle totally confirms that the bottom left is the voodoo shaman dude from the concept art. Wow.
    Still convinced the top left was Chroma, the lizard man, though, since it's move in the board game was tail whip.
  • Wait @verizonwireless
    check out my thread on Unreleased Heroes! (Concept art) It shows off all the hero teasers we have seen over the years.

    Is this Chroma you are talking about, the turtle with an Anchor? Or one of the others on that thread?

    Oh and while I'm here, I will say Deadeye is coming soon! 
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  • verizonwirelessverizonwireless Member, Master Founder, Early Access
    Yeah, that's where i saw it. never payed notice before till that angle showed his voodoo doll pretty clearly.
    There was no real info on Chroma. Someone gave it a page on the wiki cause they found the name in the game files or something, but that was ages ago. Definitely unrelated to anchor turtle, cause i remember six always mentioning he wished they would develop him into a hero,  so can presume he was never more than concept art.
  • I see:

    a (maybe female) oriental (monk) warrior

    Brass, Dobbin's wife.

    Spellcaster.

    Deadeye.

    Savage jungle warrior, with a sword (or a macuahuitl), not a shaman.

    The fat figure on the right has to be something about steampunk machines, or a mecha (giant robots, like a transformer's cousin) in the shoulder? there is something like two spiral driller-horns.  
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